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Old 04-29-2010, 07:47 AM
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I just found this too funny not to comment on.

You've probably heard about how several Conservatives are declaring that the Census is an evil tactic by Obama to get personal information from you. People like Michele Bachmann of Minnesota (who is right at the top of my 'People I Despise' list) have been insisting that the census is an invasion of privacy and part of Obama's Socialist plan - despite the fact that we have had a Census in this country every 10 years since 1790 (damn those Socialist Founding Fathers!!) Now it turns out that the Conservative Blow Hards (Rush, Savage, Beck, Hannity, the list goes on - and on - and on) should have researched just what the Census DOES for the country before declaring it evil.

Besides helping the Government allocate how much money to send to each district, the Census also has a key role in determining how many Congressmen a given state will get! That's right, by telling their constituents to "Not Take Part In The Census," these idiots are effectively diminishing their political power! In states like Minnesota (where Bachman comes from) this won't have an effect as it is a liberal state - usually - and they are doing just fine on returned Census forms despite her idiocy, but several wealthy districts in the state may face serious monetary challenges when their Bachman-influenced residents refuse to send in their Census forms! Of course, I'm sure this will be blamed on Obama in some way or another. However, states like Texas, Arizona, and Florida, of which one is pure Red politically and the other two are considered battleground states, are in serious danger of losing congressional seats thanks to this new move by Conservatives to dissuade their sheople from participating in the 2010 Census.

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Well, this Texan sent in his census form. Fun fact: while Texas is a "red state", it's capital is "blue".
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I would like to see references to these statements these blow hards have made urging people not to send in their forms.
Not one person you listed has claimed that the census is socialist. They have all acknowledged that it is in the Constitution,
The data gathered from the Census has been abused for years by politicians in the way they use the demographic data to cherry pick areas in the way of redistricting. This is not done to better serve the people, but to ensure job security.
I've heard these 'blow hards' say that the massive hiring recently was used to mitigate bad press form the excessive unemployment by tauting the surge in temporary workers as an economic turnaround. I've heard them say that some of the information requested is intrusive. This seems to be the big issue to many on the right.
I've not heard them say not to send in the forms. In fact, Rush advocated sending it in but being snarky about the race category.
There are some lesser known people who have advocated living in a shack in Montana and not sending in the Census form. Where the confusion comes in is that when one particular radio host claimed this, there were calls for him to be arrested.
Bachmann, Malkin and others have stood up for his right to 'say' that and not be arrested (that pesky 1st amendment thing again). They also have acknowledged that that Census is Constitutionally mandated.
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Nowhere in there does she or Beck say not to fill it out.
Beck says he is going to fill out his and her concerns are pretty legitimate in my opinion.
They outline the consequences of not filling it out.
Where is the problem?
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Again and again, people are saying to fill out the bare minimum info. Bachman has CERTAINLY said that she will not fill hers out:

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told the Washington Times that she and her family will not be fully filling out the 2010 census forms.

Bachmann, a Republican, said her family will only be indicating the number of people in the household, because "the Constitution doesn't require any information beyond that."


Taken from here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...44-503544.html

She is the leading voice right now of the Wacko right and their weird agenda. Rush has been actively instructing people to fill out their forms incorrectly, and Beck has agreed that the forms are 'Unconstitutional.' Frankly, it seems like they are jumping onto every little thing that can be tweaked to be seen as controversial.

Here is a link to the 2000 census form - you know.. The one sent out under a REPUBLICAN White House and the one that NO ONE seemed to have an issue with. As you can see - It's asking the SAME FUCKING questions that the 2010 one does - the big issue in the difference is that they gave MORE options on the 2010 form!!! Which has PISSED off Conservatives?!?!?!

When Bachman complains that they ask for your *gasp* TELEPHONE NUMBER!!! I must ask, did she throw this hissy fit in 2000? After all, in 2000 she was just entering her Senate Career, what a PERFECT time to bring up this very important subject that she is now so inflamed by. Yet, we heard nary a peep from her then. Why is it now such an invasive form and so horribly unconstitutional? I'll tell you why: because there's a Democrat in the White House and that is the ONLY reason. Fucking ridiculous.
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The other big problem that Conservatives have with the Census is that it asks your race! This has been the big problem (with Rush telling people to pick NATIVE AMERICAN because he is an idiot.) And they make it sound as if this is something new and intrusive. I invite you all to click this LINK and scroll down to page three question six.... SEE!!! There it is. The SAME MOTHER FUCKING QUESTION! But the Conservative gas bags will have you believe that this is the first time we've ever been asked such an intrusive question! BULL SHIT! BULL SHIT!!!!! So for anyone out there who is getting all riled up about how Obama and his Acorn Army are going to storm into your house and ask you unconstitutional questions... Why the FUCK are they only yelling about this NOW?! Why weren't they marching in the streets in 2000?
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This actually brings up legitimate questions with a misleading title.
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Guess they were right be concerned about ACORN.....
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I'm not reading the rest.... these do not say not to fill out the forms!
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Ok, I read this one and there is no mention of the Census at all.


Here is one person complaining about the same things in 2000
http://www.perkel.com/politics/census.htm

Colbert and Stewert mocking the 2000 Census.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tu...---census-2000

Every Dems favorite person, Karl Rove stared in a Census ad.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html Rush is not telling people to fill it out wrong.

Aside from Bachmann saying she is not filling it out, everything else here is a legitimate topic for discussion.
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Rush says to pick other and write in American. See link above. He does not say to pick Native American. 2000 was the first year that race was on the census and it was a big deal then as well .

Obama wants the Census to be managed by his staffers. How is not something to cause concern? How is it not of concern that "Republican" areas will not be as attended to when there is a Democrat in office? How is it not concerning that ACORN, who had a history of shady tactics, would be part of something that is supposed to nonpartisan?
The Constitution mandates that the census be completed per laws created by Congress. So claims that this is unconstitutional are not valid, but disagreements over the laws are definitely up for debate.

The concerns that residency status is not asked is pretty serious. I read a few stats that CA could lose 9 Congressional seats if illegals were not counted and TX would lose 4. This is why people are so concerned. These numbers are misused to abuse power.
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