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Old 08-04-2010, 05:15 AM
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Default Park 51, or the ground zero mosque.

Hopefully, we can get some respectul debate on here.

As many of you may or may not know, there is going to be a Mosque built close to the Ground Zero Area.

Here is an article that I found Interesting
(and take some time to read at the comments, I will point them out later)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2010080...08599200843200



As you can see, most of media is either puzzled, or trying to bring the building down.

. It is true. 9/11 is still a huge scar in American History which has led to even bigger xenophobic issue. The common american, or at least the common internet poster on chats and forums always posts the classic "oh, we won't leave those islamic motherfuckers build his temple here." or "we will blow the place up as soon as it built". The general concensus is people not wanting the Mosque to be there, because most of them, feel like it is a slap in the face. An insult.

But also, if it is true that we live in a capitalist country, or "the best country in the world", or simply, "The land of the free" (as long as you don't offend others), doesn't the guy that have the money, be able to do what he wants with it? Isn't he free to choose what religion he professes or where he wants to pray. (again, as long as he doesn't stand outside booing others, or putting signs of hate?)

And also. PEOPLE WAN'T TO DESTROY THE FUCKING PLACE. What the fuck! It's a crime of hate.

I'm seriously confused. Just putting my twisted two cents here.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:16 AM
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I am in agreement here. It is a sad state of affairs when leading political figures in this country will publicly pronounce such vapid hate by condeming a Mosque. It is the EXACT same thing as screaming about building a church near the Oklahoma City Bombing because Timothy McVay was a Christian - Or declaring that trenchcoats shouldn't be sold in Littleton, CO because Dylan Clebold (the kid from Columbine) liked to wear them. Tose two examples seem ludicrous, but they make as much sense as saying that a MOSQUE can't be built near the site of the World Trade Centers. The more and more the Conservatives blare this hate-speech, the more and more I hate them.
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Of course, remember that there is always more to the story then you know. There is also a Roman Catholic church that has been trying to get built in the same area that has been denied because of various reasons. Yet the Mosque gets approved very quickly, probably because of the sensitivity around the issue. However, I SERIOUSLY doubt the reason so many Conservatives are screaming about this has anything at all to do with Roman Catholic Churches, and instead started because of their desire to hate someone. It always pays to have an enemy.
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Gotta love Olbermann

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...and of course, america is the home of the free, and the brave... where nobody discriminates you...
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When I first heard about this I had no idea what a mosque was, I did know it was a religious building but now I see its a muslim one (and I'm not trying to be racist or biased in any way) I feel a little iffy about the situation. I don't know why but I feel like the terrorists would see that as a moral victory or something
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I don't see why there has to be any kind of religious building on ground zero but if there is one for any religion there is just as much right for one from another to be there too.
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When I first heard about this I had no idea what a mosque was, I did know it was a religious building but now I see its a muslim one (and I'm not trying to be racist or biased in any way) I feel a little iffy about the situation. I don't know why but I feel like the terrorists would see that as a moral victory or something
It's not on Ground Zero tho. It's in new York. Also, it is not a mosque, it is an islamic community center. An
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It's not on Ground Zero tho. It's in new York. Also, it is not a mosque, it is an islamic community center. An
They should just build like a gigantic memorial or something, I don't think any one religion should inhabit that area.
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They should just build like a gigantic memorial or something, I don't think any one religion should inhabit that area.
Again, it is not on Ground Zero. It's five blocks away from it. There is an actual memorial on the actual ground zero. Around Ground Zero there is a christian parish and a christian church.
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